Fòram na Gàidhlig

That's super helpful - thank you Taic!

And droch/etc aren't really the same are they, as they're not nouns and therefore don't cause genitivisation, no? Or is the lenition totally separate from it being genitive?

So the rule is as above, but if the stress is on the first word of a compound then it always lenites? Is the Faclair na Pàrlamaid wrong then, or just oversimplifying it?

Here's what's in Faclair na Pàrlamaid, but that doesn't help me understand the Calder examples! It also, to compound my confusion even further, gives "glainne-fhiona", with lenition, for wineglass - that's what I would've expected following the rules, if I hadn't heard "glainne-fiona" lots, and ...

A couple examples from the Calder book that I can't for the life of me work out. He says that the second noun is lenited if it's in the plural or "like an adjective accompanying a noun" (which I took to mean if the first noun in the compound is feminine, as in "màthair-chèile" above).

..but then he ...

Sin sibhse,

Another genitive question from me (!). Does there exist somewhere a simple explanation for when you lenite a genitive noun that doesn't have an article?

I had always understood the rule to basically be:
1) If it's in the plural
2) If it's a masculine name
3) If it's part of a compound ...

Okay so I'm persuaded that learners should make sure this isn't something left to come back to later, but I feel like I am pretty sure it is something I hear people - including native speakers - dropping fairly frequently. In Michel Byrne's Gràmar na Gàidhlig, he also notes that "not all speakers ...

GunChleoc wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:06 am You should learn them with the genitive. This will not only help you to memorize the genitive, but the gender of the nouns as well.

Sure, and I know them, but that's not really my question!

Morning folks, an dòchas gu bheil sibh uile gu math!

I have a question about the use of the genitive after verbal nouns - I know you are meant to, especially if the noun is in the definite, but I feel like I hear people not doing it all the time. Am I just mishearing it, or are people making bad ...